Welcome, gentlemen, on the show. Michael, you were the captain of England when KP made his debut. When is the first time you saw him? And what is the first impression
you got of KP? And did you ever know that this man will go on to become
such a colorful personality? First time, I saw him was in ’99. When I toured there with England he was playing for Natal in Durban. Bowling his off spin
he got me out. I’m not kidding. He got me out. Batted at, what, eight or nine?
Eight or nine? I think he got 50 in the second innings. Didn’t really think much of his batting before he bowled quite a nice off spin. And he came into the team for the tour to Zimbabwe-South Africa. And I’d not really seen him live. I’d seen him on some videos and I’d obviously seen his scores. And we had this middle practice.
I think it might have been in Botswana somewhere like that.
I don’t know where it was. – Windhoek, wasn’t it?
– Windhoek. – Somewhere like that.
– Windhoek, in Namibia. And I was with Duncan Fletcher, the coach and he goes out for this middle practice. And he plays his first ten balls,
he was useless. And I looked at Duncan and went,
“What have we picked here?” I said “He can’t hit it straight.” “So he just whips it across that pad.” I said, “He’s useless.” And Duncan’s looking at me going,
“He’ll settle, he’ll settle.” I said, “Well, he better does.” I said, “We’ve put all our hopes
on this chap.” But you had a scary debut,
I mean, so many people booing. I mean, I’ve been a comedian
so I know what heckling means. I mean, it’s like going for your gig
and only 50,000 hecklers. And you went there… I would have gone back into the dressing room. – Yeah.
– But you went there, but… And somewhere you’ve written, I think that Michael Vaughan
played a very important role in getting the team motivated and saying – that, “We’ve gotta support KP.”
– Yeah, well, it was… It was, obviously… I mean,
just a case of lobbing him into the deep end and saying “Can you swim?”
Because being from South Africa and then being sent back to Southern Africa for my first trip to Zimbabwe,
we were on the first couple of tests. But that was easy,
that was just beautiful plate up there in Harare and Bulawayo
with a little pre-touring in Windhoek. But then the baptism of fire and I think I was… Well, I was. I was batting with Vaughany when I walked out to bat at the Bullring and I think the noise… If you add up the decibels of that Bullring for that 20 minutes that we batted…
Thank goodness it rained and the game was called off. If you add up all the decibels there,
just for that 20 minutes it would never, ever add up… Every single boo that I’ve got
in Australia, in South Africa the rest of my whole career wouldn’t add up
to the decibels and the levels… – Wow.
– …at which I got abused there. But, I mean, the team environment,
that we played in and I’ve always said that it’s the best team that I ever played in the first
3, 4, 5 years of my career because you could feel like there was a genuine team spirit. And the way that you went into the huddle
and we’re warming up in Durban and my first game in Durban and Vaughany and Gareth Batty,
you know, the off spinner. I mean, they just said,
“If anyone gives it to him today” “we’re gonna give it back twice as much.” And so that kind of stuff just helped me
just, sort of, settle into the team – they put…
– I have to say that, I look back at that and think, “What the hell
was I protecting him for?” “What was I doing?” I should have
just let him get out there and get the boos. It’s the only time I’ve seen him scared. – Yeah?
– The only time. Yeah, I was…
It was “rabbit in headlights” for sure. But, you know, Michael’s always mentioned that captaincy is about
man management, nothing else. And you take pride in the fact that you managed your players well. So I’m gonna put you on the spot give you a name… A few names about two players
who I think you’ve managed decently. Kevin, step in if he’s not telling the truth. I will. I always have done. So, Steve Harmison. Steve Harmison. Well… Oh, I mean, he was great on his day. How did you manage Steve Harmison?
Well, it was quite easy. Just talk about Newcastle United. [Vikram laughing] Give him a pint of lager sit him down, discuss football,
take his mind off it. Make sure he’s got an adjoining room
with Freddie Flintoff. Kevin: Okay, okay. I mean, not many people know, but both of those two are scared of the dark. That’s absolutely true, Kev. So a lot of my… Captaincy for me, of course there’s a lot
of it about tactics and strategies, but I do believe leadership is about
the people, it’s about understanding not as a cricketer, it’s about the person, so go out of your way to make sure
that you know what the person wants. And I worked out pretty quickly that Steve Harmison
and Freddie Flintoff are like that. So, I needed them
close together all the time. So I would have meetings
with the team manager Phil Neal and a lot of the meetings were about hotels.
“Was there an adjoining room” “that Freddie and Steve Harmison…
Yeah, but it’s on the first floor.” “I don’t care, they’ve gotta be in there.” And that door would be open 24/7 and they’d have…
It’ll be like the cinema, wasn’t it? Sitting with Haribos and Coca-Cola you name it, it had everything
in there. Big screen for the TV. – And that was them together, they were…
– Just keep them happy. Just keep… And I’m a big believer in that,
in management that… You know, I think,
the players are under so much pressure that you’ve gotta look after
the person. You know, the cricket I know,
the cricketer average is 45 he bats right-handed
or he bowls left arm over but you know, I as a captain
need to know who that person was. And I always felt
if I knew them more off the pitch… On the pitch, I could react
a little bit better to them if I knew them off the pitch.
So, Steve Harmison was easy. The hard bit for Steve
was getting on a plane. – He was scared of flying?
– Yeah, he didn’t like flying. A funny story.
We went to New Zealand in 2006… No, ’07, my last tour. And we get down to New Zealand…
It’s a long way from England, right? And the day before the first test in Hamilton there was a little bit of a debate whether Steve and
Matthew Hoggard should play. Broad and Anderson were on the tour.
Should they be playing in? I stayed loyal with my senior player and I thought, “You know,
I’ll give them one game.” “Give them one last game.
If they come up trumps, great.” “If not, I’ll go
with the two younger players.” And the night before, he knocks on my door and Steve had never knocked on my door. I said, “Steve, what’s your problem?”
He said, “You use Gunn and Moore, don’t ya?” I went, “Steve, brilliant observation.” I said, “What’s your issue?”
He said, “Tomorrow, can I borrow your pads?” I said, “You what?”
He said, “I forgot my pads.” We’ve been there for two and a half weeks and because we’d played warm-up games,
he’d had not really batted. He gets to the last moment
before the test match starts to ask whether he…
And I said, “Steve,” “when you go through the airport” “what is that box
that you carry through the airport?” He said, “Oh, that’s my dart board.” Vikram: That is funny. Takes his dart board,
but not his pads to New Zealand. – Gold dust, absolute gem.
– He was a bowler, though. – He was a bowler.
– Yeah, that’s true. You gotta give him some slack. But managing Kevin Pietersen? Or did Kevin Pietersen manage his captains? When I was under Vaughany’s leadership
and Duncan Fletcher it was the happiest time
that I ever played cricket for England. Because we all just got on, and we had fun, and we trained well and I think Fletch and Vaughany got me in terms of just, “Go and do your thing.” Not… They didn’t pressure me,
they didn’t say “You’ve gotta do this. You have to do this.
Why haven’t you done this?” Finish your one-day game and they make you do sprints
around the cricket field. [Vikram laughing] I couldn’t sprint,
that was the reason why. Yeah. – And just…
– Smart captain. That constant… That constant pressure of… Like he’s just said now,
the amount of pressure that you’re on in international cricket it is just the weight of expectation the dealing with
all the commitments off the field. When you get into that team environment
the pressure should be off it should be the most relaxed environment.
Just go and enjoy yourself. Go and have some fun. Let’s… We’re gonna train properly,
we know you train properly so I don’t need to pressure you, say “Do this, do this, do this,
do this, do this.” He’d just have a laugh with me. – He’d just have a laugh.
– The skill in managing the individual you know, the talking teams you know, and the culture.
Yeah, of course you need a culture in a team, but cricket’s a unique sport where it’s the individual that plays and it’s only that one person.
Only Kev can face the ball or I can face the ball, catch the ball.
I didn’t catch many, but try and catch the ball.
Bowl the ball. And I think in cricket, there’s so much
talk of this ethic and this culture that you know, you forget
that it’s about the individual really manage that individual player.
And I always laugh at people. “So, you’ve got Kevin at the best time.” “You know, he had everything to prove.” I go “Yes, but Kev’s always been an idiot.” But it’s about managing the idiot. You know. And if you can
manage him and understand him as he said, he just wanted to know.
He was a nosey bugger. He wanted to know when the coach
was leaving, why we’re doing this what kit was gonna be worn the week after,
why we were in that color why are we staying in that hotel?
And we’d just say “Man, give him an answer.” And if you gave him the answer, he was fine. – Wow.
– You know, if you didn’t and you were quiet with him you knew there was gonna be a few issues ’cause he was just… I think that was OCD. – Is that what you are?
– No, I’m just a structured person. And I like structure and I like to understand. Like I’ve been dealing
with something in the car now where somebody is not answ… And I just like, “I just have to get this.”
‘Cause I’m thinking so far ahead, like… It’s just me. It’s just what I do.
I just like to know what’s happening next week, the week after. I just like structure. – Nice.
– I don’t like wishy-washiness. It’s just the way I’m wired. Let’s talk about some India stories now. And I remember one big story that’s the jelly bean incident in 2007. And the allegation was English players
threw jelly beans at Indian batsmen and I’ve never seen Zaheer Khan angry, ever. I think he’s zen, and he doesn’t
get angry. But even he got angry – and India won the match.
– Well, first and foremost your opinion of Zaheer Khan
is completely wrong. Yeah, he was probably
the angriest bowler that I’ve ever faced. He was very angry. He and,
I’d say, Glenn McGrath. Glenn McGrath, more so,
in just aggression. Just abusive. If you hit him for 4, he didn’t like it. Zaheer Khan was right in my face.
Then, was he in yours? Even when he was fielding.
Sreesanth bowled me a beamer at Trent Bridge once. – That’s the same game.
– Same game. I think it might be just hotheaded,
a little bit irritable that test match. But my goodness! I would
have expected Sreesanth to say something but Zaheer Khan from mid on
absolutely flew at me. Like, properly flew at me. I mean, the incident
with the jelly beans, that… I thought it was a bit
blown out of proportion. They’re a nice sweet. Why wouldn’t you want a jelly bean? We played the West Indies…
Wasn’t it that same year? Marlon Samuels at Durham
had a jelly baby thrown at… And a similar thing had happened,
the drinks come out a few sweets in hand. It was in the day where sweets,
apparently, made the ball swing… – Trescothick’s lollies!
– Yeah, Trescothick just… – He just, like, eats it.
– He just eats it like food. You know, he’s a hungry chap.
And a jelly baby’s on the pitch at Durham and Marlon Samuels
just took his helmet off and just ate it. – It is weird, you know.
– And that’s exactly what the India… Zaheer should’ve just picked it up
and had a nice little nibble on it. It is weird how that ended up
being such a big story. – Vikram: Yeah.
– Like, really weird. Like, I think on the front page or the back pages of papers,
“There were jelly beans.” Like, “Who was it?” Like, they were swapping
our heads for… – For sweets and colors…
– Even in India, we saw all the newspapers
were full of the jelly bean incident and I was like, “Something must
have happened, Zaheer Khan angry.” And now you’ve told me something
which is, like, India needs to know. That is called gardening all the time.
So, if there’s a loose bit of turf up anywhere in your landing zone,
you’re gonna go knock it down. So if there’s a sweet there, I mean… I don’t think there was anything inte…
I mean, you’re not that stupid that a bowler’s running down
and you cannot see that there’s something in your line of sight.
So, if there’s something you’re gonna wash it or skip it away.
So, it was definitely not a tactic. – It was a slow news week.
– Yeah. It had to be a slow news week. The jelly… I think
they’re detracting from the fact that we were getting clubbed,
’cause India beat us. Yeah, they beat us
on that occasion. Beat us in the test match. And my story is that
everybody got motivated because of this and that’s why they beat you,
but maybe that’s not the truth anymore. Maybe, that’s just
a little bit of a deviation. Maybe it’s something to do with Zaheer Khan – swinging it around the corners.
– Yeah. Is it true that you consulted
Rahul Dravid once… …to understand
how to play spin bowling in India? I did. Well, not in India,
all over the world. Because DRS had just come into the game,
and I was a very leg side dominant player and I loved to hit the ball
through the leg side. And I played beautifully against Warnie and against some of the best spinners
in the world. The Vettori’s and Murali’s. And I kept hitting them through the leg side.
But because I’m 6’4″ every time I got my foot
down there, before DRS too far forward, not out. Then DRS came,
and then I started getting given out. “Out, LBW. Out, LBW. Out, LBW.” So, I had to change the whole way
that I played spin. And I wasn’t good enough
to think about it and to figure it out and so, luckily,
with the invention of the IPL and my friendships that I created
with Dravid, and Kumble, and Kallis and all those guys down in Bangalore
from a personal level I was able to call Rahul and say “Brother, how on earth do you play spin?” – “What am I doing wrong?”
– You can’t call Rahul Dravid “brother.” I did. I did. He’s Mr. Rahul. Yes, but he is. He’s also a mate. And he’s a great mate,
and I look up to him so much. I mean, I wrote that email,
or he wrote that email and I put it in my book
because of how generous and how kind it was. I mean, he didn’t have to do it,
but he went into so much detail on how to play spin. It was just amazing.
I just read that email and I was just like, “Wow” and then I went and practiced it.
And luckily enough I was skillful enough
to put it into practice. Wow, what a wonderful story. Two English greats,
and we’ve got to talk about your very close friends, the Australians which means the Ashes as well. We’ll start with you, Michael. So many incidents
must have happened in 2005 Ashes where your very dear friend Ricky Ponting must have said something to you,
must have needled you. We want a couple of juicy stories from you,
especially in the context of the Ashes. I mean, the first day at Lord’s, I think it was an amazing occasion because expectation was there
from the England supporters… We had, it seemed, the potential
that could destroy the Australians and we bowled first and Steve Harmison ran in drew a bit of blood. And Ricky Ponting got hit,
and there was blood coming out. We kind of walked closely
to say, “Are you all right?” And he just brushed us away,
and people thought we’d not even gone to see if he was all right. It was, basically… He just got like that,
“Get rid of the English.” “We don’t need you to say, you know,
if we’re doing all right or not.” We bowled them out, we got out to bat…
But as he was batting… I always stood at mid-on or mid-off,
used to hide in the field. And we had a bit of an objective as a team to fling the ball into the keeper. So when we got the ball in the field,
you just throw it into Geraint Jones. We just felt
it was a better buzz for the team. Now, Ricky felt that we were throwing at him. So the ball that I was throwing
from mid-on or mid-off I would just whip it in
and Ricky’d have to duck a few times. And he thought I was throwing it at him. Now, he’d obviously
not been studying my fielding because I couldn’t aim
that close to Ricky Ponting. So I went out to take my guard,
I’m taking my guard late afternoon, ’cause we lost
a couple of early wickets. McGrath’s bowling,
and Ricky Ponting just stormed to me and gave me the biggest volley. And I’m looking at Rick going,
“You know, you’re my hero.” Absolutely. I idolize this chap. I’m gonna have to go toe-to-toe
for the whole summer. But someone had told me in Australia that if you could wind Ricky Ponting up he would explode eventually. – Wow.
– Someone pre-series had… I wouldn’t say they’d written
a document on the Aussies but gave me a few little tips
on what to do to certain individuals. And one of the tips to Ricky Ponting
was try and wind him up. – Wow.
– Now, throughout the whole series if you go back
to the fourth test match at Trent Bridge where we’d been prodding Ricky
a little bit with a few tactical things. I think the fact that we’d used
the odd sub fielder – had wound him up a little bit.
– Yes. – That really wound him up.
– Then Gary Pratt ran him out at Trent Bridge. And then he pointed to the dressing room
to Duncan Fletcher. I remember winning at Trent Bridge
and as I drove back to the hotel the person that wrote me that document
rings me on the phone. And he just said,
“I told you to wind Ricky Ponting up.” Wow. That is unbelievable. There’s another story of the second day
of the second test at Edgbaston. We all wanted to bat first.
We needed to bat first against Australia ’cause we didn’t wanna be
chasing against Shane Warne. Glenn McGrath tripped over the ball. I’ve never seen an England team celebrate
so much at 9:30 in the morning all giving low-fives. That was marvelous. Sorry, Glenn but that was marvelous
to see you on a stretcher. Just for that one game.
And then I walked out at toss and just a little bit of advice
for, like, captaincy and… When you see the two captains
out in the middle for the toss you can always tell the desperate captain. So I tossed the coin high, and
I used to do it just for a bit of a giggle. Lob it as high as I could,
and it trickled down the pitch. Now, this is the desperate captain. – Runs after it?
– The captain that chases after the coin. That’s me. I’ve chased after the coin,
nearly pulled my hammy. And then gone back to Ricky,
and Ricky said, “Oh, we’ll have a ball.” Well, I’ve never grabbed
a captain’s hand as quick in all my time. I went, “Get in here. Come here.
Thank you very much. We’ll have a bat.” And then on that day, we scored
400 in 80 overs there. Yeah. Always remember it. And we went out to field,
and it rains, so we didn’t bowl a ball. Go into the dressing room thinking “You beauty. We’re in the game. We got 400.” Shower, change, and I go into the car park and it’s by the ground
at the Colts Cricket Ground. Getting in my car,
and as I’m getting in my car Geoffrey Boycott walks past me.
I always remember. He walks past me,
he’s got that stupid hat on. And he just looks at me and goes,
“Skipper, entertaining stuff that.” “But you won’t win cricket matches
batting like that.” I’ll always remember. That was Sunday
when it goes down to third… People said, “Oh, what were you thinking?”
All I could think about was Geoffrey Boycott. I’m thinking, “Please win
so I could just go and shake his hand.” – Yeah, great times.
– That is funny. Warnie was a good friend of yours,
but something happened. Just like his bowling, he went the other way. – Shane Warne?
– Yes. Yeah, so… Warnie, in 2005, was fun, jovial, friendly. And he copped the brunt of that drop catch. Now, Hayden, obviously
dropped me just before that. And because it was Shane Warne he gets all the publicity that surrounds it. But throughout that series,
I’d had a laugh and a joke. It was my first series. I don’t think Warne thought that I could bat
the way that I actually did play. And I was lucky enough
to do what I did in that series. But the Australians,
with him being the talisman didn’t appreciate the fact
that he’d always have a laugh at me and a joke with me. And he wouldn’t abuse me. Like, I mean, Bell would come in and I’d be standing
at the non-striker’s end going “Oh, my word. This is what
Shane Warne does to batsmen.” “This is what he must have done to Cullinan.” “This is what he must have done
to all those batters around the world.” – Like…
– Ian Bell was about 12 at the time. It was crazy. I mean Bellie basically walked out,
and it was just… He was gone. Done. Soon as Warnie came on, it was just… Just started calling him
The Sherminator from ‘American Pie.’ It was just… The volley was… I couldn’t believe the kind of stuff. But then on the flip side,
I’d hit Warnie and he’d start laughing. And then I’d run down the other end and I’d just say something to him,
and he’d start laughing. And I’m sure it’s the Australians,
they must have gone… And I know they did. They must have gone “We can’t have this.” So, after that series we went down there 18 months later
and played the next series. He was a completely different animal. Like, he’d thrown the ball at me and abusing me,
and hammering me… …and we had a big ding-dong
in Brisbane at The Gabba my favorite place for a couple of sessions. And we certainly knew that they meant business that series just with the way that Warne approached that. And after the series, he just told me,
he just said, “Listen.” He said, “I got told
in non-certain terms that” “there was to be no friendliness,
and there was to be no” “nicey-niceys,
and we needed to win this series” “and I needed to be…” But I loved it, I engaged with it. I got runs there. I got a 100 in Adelaide I got more runs in Perth. – So it properly got me engaged.
– Wow. But we definitely knew, I definitely knew there was a different animal there,
and a different beast. And the results showed.
I don’t think we won a session. We got absolutely hammered. But, you know, what you told around… I think a couple of months back,
I saw the interview. And you were mentioning about the fact that you used
body language effectively on this tour and, you know, there was something
about, you know, guys in the balcony and there was something about,
you know, the team sheet exchange. Can you tell us about that? You also played mind games
with the Aussies before the tour began. Oh, I think, you know,
the Aussies are big on, you know the ethics of all as one. And I think, you know, my experience
of playing against Australia was 2002-2003, and we weren’t a great team and we were battered and bruised by that great Australian setup, and I felt that they talked down
to a lot of our players as well so that was a little bit of motivation
on my behalf. I also realized that the senior players
in the team back then had just not got the right mentality because they’d been beaten up
for such a long period of time. That’s why we gambled. You know, we made debut on my first day at Lord’s in 2005. Ian Bell came as a youngster
for Graham Thorpe. So we were willing to go into the 2000 series with a younger, fresher set of minds. And one of the big things for me
was making sure that we’re on the balcony watching. You know, I wanted the Australians
to always look up to the balcony and that balcony was full. You know, I didn’t want them to look up… And I didn’t care
if someone was reading a book or not interested in the cricket,
just show presence on the balcony. Did it make a difference? Probably not. But I just wanted that as a leader. One of the big things
I used to do as a skipper was when you walk out for the toss I used to… You know,
you shake the captain’s hand in that occasion Ricky Pointing,
and I’d get the team sheet out of my pocket give it to Ricky and he’d give me his. And I used to just screw it up
and put it in my pocket. – Now…
– What, as in, crunch it up? Yeah, I used to… Yeah, because
I didn’t wanna think that he thought that I needed to look at his team. I used to do it with all the captains… but the problem with
Edgbaston when Glenn McGrath… Yeah. “Is McGrath playing
this series?” I screwed it up. And as he was looking away, I went “Oh, damn it. Oh, he’s not playing.
Oh, you beauty.” “Just check on that one.” Yeah, so a little bit of that. Look,
I don’t think it makes any difference but I think because Australia
battered and bruised England pretty much in every series since ’86, ’87 we had to try anything to prove to them – that we were a different team.
– Awesome. So we’ll end this amazing Australia segment with one good sledging or, you know, some major battle
with an Australian bowler. Maybe Mitch Johnson?
Because that is something we remember. It’s not really a sledge per se. I mean, my greatest sledge
does come from Australia and it is with one of the Waugh brothers. It’s with Danny Waugh. I mean, if I told you
the Mitchell Johnson story, you… It’s not really a sledge. But I will tell you a really funny story and I’ve played against the Waughs,
all of them. You’ve played against the best,
and you’ve played against the best sledgers. This was the best.
I was playing Grade Cricket in Australia in 2000-2001 and we were playing at Randwick,
home of the Waughs, the Waughs played there. But I was playing with Danny Waugh,
who was a left-hander more talented than Steve and Mark but just an arty guy.
Just a guy that just wanted to draw his art have a few beers and just get on with it. And he batted six for us. We all went out the night before, as you do club cricket, grade cricket.
We all went out the night before and we enjoyed ourselves,
and we had the most wonderful evening. Some of us took ourselves to bed. Danny said, “No, no, no, I’m going big here.” So he had a Monster. And we came to the ground the next morning and we could see that
Deedub had had a Monster. And… But it was the flattest wicket
in the world. We won the toss, we batted. Our openers got 50 each. I got 60 or 70. Four, got whatever…
Every single batter scored runs. Danny gets in. We’re like, I don’t know… I don’t know. What? 4 for 200,
or 4 for 250 or something? Danny gets in, in the last pasture playing as a guy
that had been drinking all day. I’m watching. You just get these guys. On his Ford Cortina, sitting there
with a six pack of stubbies and just drinking all day. Danny walks out to bat.
Plays and misses, plays and misses and nicks one, plays and misses plays around a straight one
and gets knocked over ’cause he hasn’t slept. He’s walking off the field. Danny Waugh. Better than his brothers,
just the most talented. Everybody knew it.
The guy shouts from his car “Oi, Danny! Are you adopted?” And the dressing room and everyone just completely broke down. Completely broke down. – That is something.
– Like, on that wicket Deedub should have just walked in there
and just played like Lara. [Vikram laughing] It was the best I’ve ever heard – and I think Waughnie…
– I think it’s one of the funniest sledges I’ve heard. We’ve checked your mental strength
on the show and so many wonderful stories but now we need to check
your physical strength. So we’re going to play the Hammer Game where you have to hit the hammer
the hardest you can. A lot of records that players have set here. – Really?
– So, shall we try? Who’s number one? Rohit Sharma, 919. Not too sure
I’ll be getting to that. This is the Hammer Game. Any toss for you or you go… – Captain. Captain.
– This is a good captain. – Gives you the chance.
– I’ve won the toss and I’m gonna bat. – Bat first?
– Bat first. As Ravi Shastri would say “This is your chance.” Very good.
Very good. What do I do? – Just whack in this?
– Just whack it. – Wow.
– Oh, that’s strong. Kabang! As Greggie would say,
“It’s gone. It’s in the air. He’s got him. Boy! What a player! – Vikram: Oh, 898.
– 898. Yeah, I didn’t give it… Shall I just go one-handed? – Yeah.
– Just to make it fair. – Kevin: Mike, come on.
– Vikram: Ready? This is your… – Not bad.
– He almost… Incredible. Come on, keep going. Go on. There you go. There you go. Michael: Go on! – Got it!
– Well done, well done. – There you are, the winner.
– He’s got it! Michael, congratulations. Thank you, gentlemen, for that
amazing performance. You know,
what we’ll be doing now is that we celebrate the duck on this show. So we are going to actually
check your ability to draw the duck. – Awesome.
– So you pick the ball early let’s see if you can
do something here… – Let’s draw the duck. You ready? Let’s go.
– Yeah. This is the way, gentlemen.
Two famous artists from England. Your time starts now. – Mine looks more like a…
– Nice. Nice. Currently, it looks like…
Oh, nice. Good beak, Michael. Hard to get that color and all there, right? Blue eyes. Shall I give my duck a blue… Bit of blue tint in the eyes? – Yes, you can.
– Yeah. – That looks like a seagull.
– That looks like a chicken. – What is that?
– It’s a seagull. Seagull. I just
took the reference from there.